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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 13:57:01 GMT -5
Anakin so wants to do what is right. He even does the right things, it’s just everyone around him doesn’t treat him as an equal… save for Palpatine. That when push comes to shove, the only f**king rat bastard in the galaxy that is going to call him son, tell him ‘fairy tales’ and really listen to his problems enough to find out what is REALLY troubling him is the bad guy!
Why?
Because the whole d**n galaxy is at war, because to everyone else, Anakin’s existential crisis doesn’t amount to a hill of beans, they’ve got bigger fish to fry. They’ve got to Protect Wookies and the mushroom people and Hellraiser’s home planet and kill lots of robots and General Grievous and police the f**king universe… and… and… well, they’re d**n domestic policy sucks!
The Bad Guy has his priorities right. He’s controlling the robots, the clones and to a large extent the Jedi… yet still manages to multi-task enough to listen to Anakin and help him deal with his premonitions of personal tragedy. He'll take the time, to ignore an amazing science fiction zero G Esther Williams number, to tell young Skywalker a SITH LEGEND. A story, an anecdote. And he tells it, like a father would to a son. And the story is directly related to the problem Anakin is facing, it gives him hope, direction and the first glimmer of a happy ending to his concern. He doesn’t tell Anakin bullnuts like… learn to not give a nuts, detachment is the key to inner peace… What sort of bullnuts is that? Ignore your problems, betray those you love, watch everyone you care about die – and just be happy cuz they’re food for the force, which you manipulate… and everyone’s death will just make you more powerful. WHAT SORT OF f**kING JEDI WISDOM IS THAT nuts YODA??? THAT'S NOT REALLY HELPFUL YOU NEGATIVE GREEN TURD!
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 13:57:48 GMT -5
My god. The Jedi really are a bunch of goody two shoe clueless f**ks. They’re so concerned with fixing the galaxy’s problems that they don’t have time for their own… and due to their unrealistic and inhumane rules about not loving or caring about anything other than the almighty “force” they created an air of fear for Skywalker. How could he level with them? How could he share with them? By the time Obi Wan finds out Anakin and Padme have kids on the way… it’s too late. That ship has sailed. Everyone is so busy being good little soldiers, that they just are not communicating.
Obi Wan never takes Anakin out for drinks and just levels with him. Sits him down and explains fascist totalitarianism. He doesn’t explain why sacrificing the most marginal freedoms to create a false sense of security enables those taking on those additional powers to create a greater evil than that which they fear. Hell, nobody really explains to Anakin why Democracy is better than Absolute Rule. Instead it is all this, “Search your feelings” bull****. Turn to your ancient religion. This is why ultimately Luke Skywalker kicks ass. Because he doesn’t have all this dogmatic bull****. Because he’s got a buddy like Han Solo that’d be willing to bust ass across the galaxy to save his ass. Somebody that has his back. FRIENDS! Because when the Sith hits the fan, it’s the love of your friends that’ll help you push through and kick ass. Because Luke believes in twin sunsets, the good guys and saving his dad.
What does Anakin have? Who cares about Anakin? Well Obi Wan, but he doesn’t know how to show it. Yoda? He’s too busy being disturbed about the cosmic meaning of **** to even form a no bull**** non fortune cookie sentence. Mace Windu? He’s got his head so far up his ass it ain’t funny. Padme? She’s more concerned with her hair, her image, everybody’s standing and well being. And then Anakin himself? He’s told he’s the chosen one, the key that will make the galaxy unified. Yet, the only one empowering him to do that is the f**king Emperor.
I love how together Palpatine is. He’s just one of the greatest bad guys in the history of bad guys. He absolutely must be Karl Rove’s hero. Look at this. Palpatine has engineered so many things. The creation of the Droid armies, the creation of the Clone armies, his various Sith apprentices, Fall guys for Fall guys… all with the direct purpose of spreading his enemy so thin, that no matter their powers, when he calls ORDER 66… they’ll never see it coming. It’s like inviting your friends over for an all night session of game play and spreading cyanide on the f**king pizza. They’re all gonna eat it, cuz… dude… it’s what you do when you play games. The Jedi are fighting their war, doing Jedi ****. Kill the droids, tons of them. This **** is fun for them. They eat it up. This is their Frosted Flakes with Bananas. They finally got their Holy Crusade, woo hoo, a sense of purpose. They never think twice about all them f**king Boba Fetts watching their backs.
It’s so beautifully laid out. It’s f**king immaculate. This is literally how you rule the universe. It is to be admired. And learnt from. Cuz as Padme says, “This is how Democracy ends, with Thunderous Applause.” Exactly. Distractions, a clear and concise innocent front and cutthroat evil behind the scenes.
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 13:59:06 GMT -5
End of long rant.
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Post by Exar Kun Re-incarnate on May 27, 2005 14:05:28 GMT -5
Yeah, the jedi do seem like a bunch of "goody two shoes." But the main reason for Anakin turning to the darkside was Padme. This is the very reason why the Jedi say betray those you love, watch everyone you care about die blah blah blah. Love leads to jelousy,jelousy to hate, and then hate to the darkside.
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 14:16:16 GMT -5
true. But lets not forget hate, fear, ambition, jealousy and self-centered egotism also had a hand in anakins turn..
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 14:24:06 GMT -5
from the novel:
" You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself...
It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith—<br>Because now your self is all you will ever have. "
" Beneath that dome sat Yoda. He did not look at the stars.
He sat a very long time.
Even after nearly nine hundred years, the road to self-knowledge was rugged enough to leave him bruised and bleeding.
He spoke softly, but not to himself.
Though no one was with him, he was not alone.
"My failure, this was. Failed the Jedi, I did."
He spoke to the Force.
And the Force answered him. Do not blame yourself, my old friend.
As it sometimes had these past thirteen years, when the Force spoke to him, it spoke in the voice of Qui-Gon Jinn.
"Too old I was," Yoda said. "Too rigid. Too arrogant to see that the old way is not the only way. These Jedi, I trained to become the Jedi who had trained me, long centuries ago—but those ancient Jedi, of a different time they were. Changed, has the galaxy. Changed, the Order did not—because let it change, I did not."
More easily said than done, my friend.
"An infinite mystery is the Force." Yoda lifted his head and turned his gaze out into the wheel of stars. "Much to learn, there still is."
And you will have time to learn it.
"Infinite knowledge..." Yoda shook his head. "Infinite time, does that require."
With my help, you can learn to join with the Force, yet retain consciousness. You can join your light to it forever. Perhaps, in time, even your physical self.
Yoda did not move. "Eternal life..."
The ultimate goal of the Sith, yet they can never achieve it; it comes only by the release of self, not the exaltation of self. It comes through compassion, not greed. Love is the answer to the darkness.
"Become one with the Force, yet influence still to have..." Yoda mused. "A power greater than all, it is."
It cannot be granted; it can only be taught. It is yours to learn, if you wish it.
Slowly, Yoda nodded. "A very great Jedi Master you have become, Qui-Gon Jinn. A very great Jedi Master you always were, but too blind I was to see it."
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Post by D3v|L on May 27, 2005 15:09:50 GMT -5
So basically the Jedi Messed up.
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 15:35:42 GMT -5
You could say that. anakin did bring balance to the force, just not the way anyone expected.
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Lord Magician
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Post by Lord Magician on May 27, 2005 17:31:18 GMT -5
So.....you are telling me he is a fool then?  |
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Post by Jacen Starkiller on May 27, 2005 22:16:23 GMT -5
Anakin was a fool to think palp was his friend, but so were the jedi. Palp wasnt till episode 6.
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Post by Anakin on May 29, 2005 21:28:22 GMT -5
he wanted to save padame
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Post by Arc commander on May 30, 2005 8:30:06 GMT -5
Anikin joined the sith because of their light sabers. The light side had pink and other "colorful" lightsabers. The darkside had red. Red is cool. THE END OF MOVIE.
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Post by Anakin on May 30, 2005 11:30:06 GMT -5
no matter he turned to save padame from dieing yet doesnt so it was just a wast now he is trapped to the darkside
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Post by Arc commander on May 30, 2005 15:55:06 GMT -5
And thats the end of that.
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Post by Anakin on May 31, 2005 11:28:41 GMT -5
now who got the bad end of that deal
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